and the making of law. people have the right moral and religious values. i hope that many will feel that is an important thing. even though they can't directly legislate morality or law or religion, they can nevertheless support it in various ways. >> what was cardinal dulles's relationship with his father? >> i found out something about that that i don't think is ever been published, buried in oral history in the princeton dulles archives. in that oral history, it is an interview with one of the law partners at sullivan cromwell. he says one day, foster dulles called me frantically and said, this is the worst day of my life. you have got to come in right now to my office. i went to his office. i saw him very upset. he handed me a letter and asked me to read it. the letter was to his son, avery, who had decided to become a catholic. for someone like john foster dulles, it would have been better if his son had become a hindu. a catholic was absolutely intolerable. in this letter, foster dulles writes to his